Ah, how perfect that this comes to me now, almost immediately after the previous spam which I called out as super-effective and, in fact, delightful. As they say in undergraduate humanities examinations, Compare and Contrast.
First, the background: several years ago I was working as a marketing assistant to someone who did a lot of public speaking at businessy events, which required me to subscribe to a lot of marketing emails from people who do a lot of public speaking. One of these people is Raymond Aaron. That was perhaps five years ago. I first attempted to unsubscribe from his email list about three years ago, with the result that for awhile the emails went away and then they came back, which was infuriating, as they’re not exactly infrequent, and I’d gone through the approved Unsubscribe process. Well, I’ve attempted to unsubscribe something like nine times since then, and yet they return, as welcome as festering, pus-ridden zombies. They no longer contain an unsubscribe link (which is, I believe, illegal in Canada) and if you respond to the email asking to be removed, you get an automated response telling you no human checks those emails.
The last time this happened, I lost my temper (imagine that!) and called bullshit on Raymond Aaron in front of his 93,000 Twitter Followers (some 2000 less than he Follows, FYI) and my 7k. After a bit of back-and-forth, I was taken off the email list, I’d thought forever.
But Nooooooo…
Well, in case you’re interested, after the jump I’ve posted the two emails I received from him last night, plus the one I got when I attempted to ask him not to email me anymore. Will the madness never end? Will Raymond Aaron ever learn from Steve Martin? Will I ever buy that bluegrass album? Stay tuned for all the details…
First email from Raymond Aaron:
You could learn a lot from a guy like George Ross.
As Donald Trump’s right-hand man, Executive Vice
President and Senior Counsel for the Trump
Organization, George is easily one of the most
experienced and well-connected business leaders on the
planet.Imagine what you could do to your income and your life
knowing his strategies for negotiation,
business-growth, sales, marketing and real estate.
You should know he’s excited about the upcoming few
years, especially the opportunities for entrepreneurs,
real estate investors, and business-owners who know how
to react and prosper in the changing environment.Let me explain:
At 82 years old (at the top of his game) and knowing
Trump since the 70’s he’s seen it all.
The way our economy works is in cycles — we’re
currently in a down cycle.But that’s the good news because history tells us
fortunes are made in down cycles.You see when everyone runs, hides, and screams mercy –
savvy entrepreneurs respond and take action.Well this is your chance to answer the call of
opportunity and take action.That said…
I’d like to introduce YOU to George Ross.
First, in a conversation over the phone.
And second, in person in Vancouver this March.
Let me tell you about our phone call…
This Wednesday night Mr. Ross has agreed to share some
time with you and I over the phone. He’ll be sharing
information on subjects like business, negotiation
skills, real estate, and where
the big opportunities are in the coming economy.There are very few people in the world that know how
the business world works like George.Join me on the call because this is your chance to get
inside his brain.Here are the details:
The call is this Wednesday night, 8pm Pacific.
Phone: (516) 453-0014
Access Code: 199-031-639To attend via webcast register below:
https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/119025466It starts promptly at 8 o’clock so you want to get
there a few minutes early.See you on the call!
Love,
Raymond
https://raymondaaron.infusionsoft.com/opt?o=8&i=12049&s=858052&e=e1cc5af5
The Raymond Aaron Group
2-9225 Leslie St.
Richmond Hill, Ontario L4B3H6
Canada
(905) 881-8995Delivered By Infusionsoft
https://crm.infusionsoft.com/go/infs/footer_raymondaaron/text
Second email, because apparently he’d forgotten crucial info in the first:
To gain access to this exclusive call, click on the link below:
https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/119025466It starts promptly at 8 o’clock so you want to get
there a few minutes early.See you on the call!
Love,
Raymond
https://raymondaaron.infusionsoft.com/opt?o=8&i=12049&s=861842&e=e1cc5af5
My reply:
Really? After no fewer than ten unsubscribe requests over several years you’re STILL sending me emails? Stop. Delete this email from your database completely. Otherwise the next time you hire a new virtual assistant, she’ll just spam me again.
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And the email I received in response to that:
Dear Friend,
You replied to an email address that no human receives.
We’d love to know what you want, so here’s how to do it.To contact the Raymond Aaron Group please go to:
http://www.aaron.com/contactus.php
Then fill out the “Contact Us” form and choose the appropriate category from “Select a Category”…
Alternatively you may also call our office at: 1-888-504-6257
Regards,
The Raymond Aaron Group
2-9225 Leslie St.
Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada
L4B 3H6
Phone: 1-888-504-6257
Fax: 1-866-493-4281
Of course, if I do that, guess what? Smart money says I get Subscribed again!
raincoaster
March 2, 2011
aaaand the joke continues: got another one tonight.
from ~Raymond Aaron~
to raincoaster
date Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:10 AM
subject The man behind the largest (and most profitable) real estate dealsin the world
mailed-by infusionmail.com
signed-by infusionmail.com
hide details 9:10 AM (17 hours ago)
40 Wall Street in New York City, NY is an incredible
story.
The building itself has an interesting history, racing
to be the world’s tallest skyscraper in its early
years.
Today the monumental structure is known as The Trump
Building… and, in fact, it’s one of the most
profitable fixer-uppers in history.
After years of neglect Donald Trump bought the iconic
70-story tower for $1 Million, “rehabbed” it, and today
40 Wall Street is worth $400 million. (Not a bad ROI,
right?)
So why am I telling you this? After all, New York City
is near 4000 kilometers away from Vancouver, BC.
What you may not know is that there is one man who is
considered the architect and mastermind of the 40 Wall
Street deal… and many of the largest, most
profitable, deals in history.
For over 3 decades George Ross has been Donald Trump’s
right hand man and Senior Counsel. He’s considered the
man behind the curtain guiding the decisions and
leading the strategy of one of the most influential
real estate developers of all time.
George is easily among the most experienced and
sharpest business minds on the PLANET. (As well as a
MASTER negotiator.)
I consider myself VERY fortunate to call George my
friend and personal mentor.
And because of our unique relationship I’ve asked him
to join us on a rare training on the state of Real
Estate in Canada, specifically in Vancouver BC, and how
you can join Canada’s top 1 income earners.
The call with George Ross is TOMORROW night (Wednesday)
at 8pm PST.
You can register to join us at the link below now:
https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/119025466
On this call you’ll get full access to George’s
experience and the very same income accelerating
lessons and insights Donald Trump (and I) have been
privileged to learn.
Tomorrow night he’ll turn his expert attention away
from Donald and the Trump Organization and focus it on
YOU!
You’ll discover how to think bigger, faster, bolder,
and make connections that lead to greater profits.
George will give you the tools to add an extra ZERO to
your deals, and as you listen in on the webinar, you’ll
realize it’s no more effort that what you’re already
doing.
If you’re ready to take advantage of the massive
opportunity in Canada’s marketplace today, then
register for this rare opportunity to understand the
trends and find out exactly where YOU need to be to win
in this economy. (Specifically in Vancouver, BC!)
Again, the call is this Wednesday night at 8pm Pacific.
You can register to join us at the link below:
https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/119025466
Don’t miss this.
Love,
Raymond
https://raymondaaron.infusionsoft.com/opt?o=8&i=12049&s=864896&e=e1cc5af5
The Raymond Aaron Group
2-9225 Leslie St.
Richmond Hill, Ontario L4B3H6
Canada
(905) 881-8995
Delivered By Infusionsoft
https://crm.infusionsoft.com/go/infs/footer_raymondaaron/text
Team Oyeniyi
March 9, 2011
I’m marking that one down as one organisation NEVER to contact under ANY cicrumstances!
timethief
March 10, 2011
OMG! It will never end Rain. I have a similar story I cannot unscrisbribe from a federal government site — I’ve been trying for years.
timethief
March 10, 2011
I think I may have created a new word. ^
raincoaster
March 11, 2011
Government bureaucracy inspires a lot of innovation around vocabulary in my experience.
You could always send them a strongly-worded email, CC’ing the privacy commissioner, saying that refusing to unsubscribe you is an invasion of your privacy. Technically, it is.
Team Oyeniyi
March 11, 2011
@Raincoaster – you sure got THAT right! About government use of language, that is. Lawd forbid they should actually ever call a spade a spade!
You got the other part right too – at least in my country – if they manage to follow their own laws, that is! :)
Val Erde
April 2, 2011
Me, I stick any email I can’t unsubscribe from in the ‘block’ filter. But I know the irritation level you’re at.
raincoaster
April 2, 2011
I’d much rather hold people up to ridicule than avoid them. It’s the Irish in me.
W. T. S. Tarver
September 16, 2011
I don’t know if I filter out the emails or gmail does, but I don’t see any more email. But now I have started getting PHONE CALLS! When I tried text messaging the number to tell them to f*ck *ff, my carrier charged me $0.25 for texting a non-cell-phone number. When I tried calling the number back, I got the message “This number is not assigned.”
raincoaster
September 16, 2011
Phone call spam is the WORST! And deceptive phone call spam like that must surely be illegal?
I never ever answer the phone unless I recognize the number AND it happens to be someone I want to hear from at that particular moment.